{"id":67543,"date":"2023-05-24T15:24:35","date_gmt":"2023-05-24T14:24:35","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/usagers-transports.haut-allier.eu\/?comite-technique-region-usagers-a,999"},"modified":"2023-05-24T15:24:35","modified_gmt":"2023-05-24T14:24:35","slug":"comite-technique-region-usagers-a-clermont-fd-morosite-sur-toutes-les-lignes-auvergnates","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/massif-central.nous-voyageurs.eu\/?p=67543","title":{"rendered":"Comit\u00e9 technique R\u00e9gion \/ Usagers \u00e0 Clermont Fd : morosit\u00e9 sur toutes les lignes auvergnates"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><img class='spip_logo spip_logo_right spip_logos' alt=\"\" style='float:right' src='http:\/\/usagers-transports.haut-allier.eu\/local\/cache-vignettes\/L600xH439\/arton999-0cbe0.jpg?1684938290' width='600' height='439' \/><\/p>\n<div class='rss_texte'>\n<p>Se tenait hier 23 mai la r\u00e9union de concertation technique entre la r\u00e9gion Auvergne Rh\u00f4ne Alpes, son prestataire SNCF, et les groupes de d\u00e9fense d&rsquo;usagers, \u00e0 l&rsquo;h\u00f4tel de r\u00e9gion de Clermont Ferrand. <br class='autobr' \/> <br class='autobr' \/><br \/>\n<i>La salle<\/i><br class='autobr' \/><br \/>\n<span class='spip_document_2938 spip_documents spip_documents_center'><br \/>\n<img src='http:\/\/usagers-transports.haut-allier.eu\/local\/cache-vignettes\/L500xH375\/img_20230523_140930-440ba.jpg?1684938322' width='500' height='375' alt=\"\" \/><\/span><br class='autobr' \/> <br class='autobr' \/><br \/>\nOui morosit\u00e9, nous allons vous l&rsquo;expliquer un peu plus loin, malgr\u00e9 le d\u00e9roul\u00e9 men\u00e9 avec \u00e9coute par Sylvain Debard charg\u00e9 des mobilit\u00e9s \u00e0 la r\u00e9gion et par Raoul Pera de SNCF Voyageurs D\u00e9veloppement mobilit\u00e9s. Les repr\u00e9sentants de SNCF R\u00e9seau, SNCF Gare et Connexions \u00e9taient l\u00e0, sauf ceux de l&rsquo;Etat, invit\u00e9s mais absents. Ce dernier point \u00e0 souligner, sans doute en lien avec le rappel r\u00e9cent des positions du pr\u00e9sident de r\u00e9gion sur le financement des infrastructures ferroviaires qu&rsquo;il consid\u00e8re comme \u00e9tant du seul ressort du gouvernement. La posture est \u00e9videmment politique : agissant ainsi Laurent Wauquiez qui se pr\u00e9sentera aux pr\u00e9sidentielles de 2027 pourra montrer son classement de r\u00e9gion la moins d\u00e9pensi\u00e8re de France, le budget transports \u00e9tant le plus important de tous. <br class='autobr' \/> <br class='autobr' \/><br \/>\n<i>Sylvain Debard<\/i><br class='autobr' \/><br \/>\n<span class='spip_document_2967 spip_documents spip_documents_center'><br \/>\n<img src='http:\/\/usagers-transports.haut-allier.eu\/local\/cache-vignettes\/L500xH305\/img_20230523_162955-f9171.jpg?1684938323' width='500' height='305' alt=\"\" \/><\/span><br class='autobr' \/> <br class='autobr' \/><br \/>\nNous allons d\u00e9rouler la pr\u00e9sentation, celle-ci n&rsquo;\u00e9tant pas encore enti\u00e8rement disponible certaines diapos ont \u00e9t\u00e9 effectu\u00e9 dans la salle m\u00eame d&rsquo;o\u00f9 leur pi\u00e8tre qualit\u00e9 (cliquez sur les diapos pour agrandir).<br class='autobr' \/> <br class='autobr' \/><br \/>\n<i>Une fr\u00e9quentation des trains en forte hausse \u00e0 la fois chez les abonn\u00e9s et les occasionnels, dans toute la r\u00e9gion<\/i><\/p>\n<dl class='spip_document_2939 spip_documents spip_documents_center'>\n<dt><a href='http:\/\/usagers-transports.haut-allier.eu\/IMG\/png\/d00.jpg.png' title='PNG - 126.8 ko' type=\"image\/png\"><img src='http:\/\/usagers-transports.haut-allier.eu\/local\/cache-vignettes\/L450xH254\/d00.jpg-f54ad-3e821.png?1684938323' width='450' height='254' alt='' \/><\/a><\/dt>\n<\/dl>\n<dl class='spip_document_2940 spip_documents spip_documents_center'>\n<dt><a href='http:\/\/usagers-transports.haut-allier.eu\/IMG\/png\/d02.jpg.png' title='PNG - 277.5 ko' type=\"image\/png\"><img src='http:\/\/usagers-transports.haut-allier.eu\/local\/cache-vignettes\/L450xH250\/d02.jpg-f8c89-61380.png?1684938323' width='450' height='250' alt='' \/><\/a><\/dt>\n<\/dl>\n<dl class='spip_document_2941 spip_documents spip_documents_center'>\n<dt><a href='http:\/\/usagers-transports.haut-allier.eu\/IMG\/png\/d03.png' title='PNG - 210.1 ko' type=\"image\/png\"><img src='http:\/\/usagers-transports.haut-allier.eu\/local\/cache-vignettes\/L450xH253\/d03-729d7-9ab1e.png?1684938323' width='450' height='253' alt='' \/><\/a><\/dt>\n<\/dl>\n<p> <br class='autobr' \/><br \/>\n<i>C\u00f4t\u00e9 \u00ab Production \u00bb<\/i><\/p>\n<dl class='spip_document_2942 spip_documents spip_documents_center'>\n<dt><a href='http:\/\/usagers-transports.haut-allier.eu\/IMG\/png\/d04.png' title='PNG - 144.9 ko' type=\"image\/png\"><img src='http:\/\/usagers-transports.haut-allier.eu\/local\/cache-vignettes\/L450xH254\/d04-a509d-1d7cf.png?1684938323' width='450' height='254' alt='' \/><\/a><\/dt>\n<\/dl>\n<p> <br class='autobr' \/><br \/>\n<i>Et on arrive aux trains supprim\u00e9s, en hausse d&rsquo;ann\u00e9e en ann\u00e9e (ils ne sont pas compt\u00e9s dans les statistiques de ponctualit\u00e9 (!). On voit qu&rsquo;en fin 2023 on atteindra les 3300 annulations du m\u00eame ordre que l&rsquo;an dernier. Pour justifier tout \u00e7a SNCF \u00e9voque une ann\u00e9e 2023 comportant un volume de chantiers important. mais qui \u00e9tablit les fiches horaires pendant les travaux si ce n&rsquo;est l&rsquo;op\u00e9rateur SNCF ?<\/i><\/p>\n<dl class='spip_document_2943 spip_documents spip_documents_center'>\n<dt><a href='http:\/\/usagers-transports.haut-allier.eu\/IMG\/png\/d05.png' title='PNG - 114.2 ko' type=\"image\/png\"><img src='http:\/\/usagers-transports.haut-allier.eu\/local\/cache-vignettes\/L450xH254\/d05-5969b-76f3d.png?1684938323' width='450' height='254' alt='' \/><\/a><\/dt>\n<\/dl>\n<p> <br class='autobr' \/><br \/>\n<i>Le tableau de la ponctualit\u00e9 qui ne veut rien dire puisqu&rsquo;il ne prend pas en compte les suppressions<\/i><\/p>\n<dl class='spip_document_2944 spip_documents spip_documents_center'>\n<dt><a href='http:\/\/usagers-transports.haut-allier.eu\/IMG\/png\/d06.png' title='PNG - 158.4 ko' type=\"image\/png\"><img src='http:\/\/usagers-transports.haut-allier.eu\/local\/cache-vignettes\/L450xH240\/d06-4153e-0f6e5.png?1684938323' width='450' height='240' alt='' \/><\/a><\/dt>\n<\/dl>\n<p> <br class='autobr' \/><br \/>\n<i>Le tableau pour Le Puy et Clermont Lyon<\/i><\/p>\n<dl class='spip_document_2945 spip_documents spip_documents_center'>\n<dt><a href='http:\/\/usagers-transports.haut-allier.eu\/IMG\/png\/d07.png' title='PNG - 119.9 ko' type=\"image\/png\"><img src='http:\/\/usagers-transports.haut-allier.eu\/local\/cache-vignettes\/L450xH250\/d07-eb7ee-29f8c.png?1684938323' width='450' height='250' alt='' \/><\/a><\/dt>\n<\/dl>\n<p> <br class='autobr' \/><br \/>\n<i>\u00ab\u00a0Taux d&rsquo;irr\u00e9gularit\u00e9\u00a0\u00bb<\/i><\/p>\n<dl class='spip_document_2946 spip_documents spip_documents_center'>\n<dt><a href='http:\/\/usagers-transports.haut-allier.eu\/IMG\/png\/d08.png' title='PNG - 115.4 ko' type=\"image\/png\"><img src='http:\/\/usagers-transports.haut-allier.eu\/local\/cache-vignettes\/L450xH253\/d08-0fa38-e297c.png?1684938323' width='450' height='253' alt='' \/><\/a><\/dt>\n<\/dl>\n<p> <br class='autobr' \/><br \/>\n<i>Le taux de trains supprim\u00e9s cause SNCF R\u00e9seau<\/i><\/p>\n<dl class='spip_document_2947 spip_documents spip_documents_center'>\n<dt><a href='http:\/\/usagers-transports.haut-allier.eu\/IMG\/png\/d09.png' title='PNG - 96.2 ko' type=\"image\/png\"><img src='http:\/\/usagers-transports.haut-allier.eu\/local\/cache-vignettes\/L450xH254\/d09-5ae98-2b26e.png?1684938323' width='450' height='254' alt='' \/><\/a><\/dt>\n<\/dl>\n<p> <br class='autobr' \/><br \/>\n<i>R\u00e9novation et modernisation des mat\u00e9riels : l\u00e0 il nous a \u00e9t\u00e9 expliqu\u00e9 que la livraison des rames command\u00e9es avaient du retard, qu&rsquo;un bon nombre de rames avaient \u00e9t\u00e9 mise au rebut, qu&rsquo;il y a des rames immobilis\u00e9es pour r\u00e9novation, que la construction de certains centres de maintenance avait du retard, et donc qu&rsquo;il y a et qu&rsquo;il y aura un manque de mat\u00e9riel jusqu&rsquo;en 2026, \u00e7a tombe bien en 2027 LW se pr\u00e9sente aux pr\u00e9sidentielles. Donc tension g\u00e9n\u00e9rale. Bonne nouvelle dans ce malheur il nous a \u00e9t\u00e9 dit que l&rsquo;Auvergne ne devrait pas \u00eatre affect\u00e9e par les substitutions par bus qui seront mises en place. Vu le fantastique service dans la partie ouest de la grande r\u00e9gion ce sera pas difficile<\/i><\/p>\n<dl class='spip_document_2953 spip_documents spip_documents_center'>\n<dt><a href='http:\/\/usagers-transports.haut-allier.eu\/IMG\/png\/d10.png' title='PNG - 413.6 ko' type=\"image\/png\"><img src='http:\/\/usagers-transports.haut-allier.eu\/local\/cache-vignettes\/L450xH253\/d10-d1e00-e3b21.png?1684938323' width='450' height='253' alt='' \/><\/a><\/dt>\n<\/dl>\n<dl class='spip_document_2949 spip_documents spip_documents_center'>\n<dt><a href='http:\/\/usagers-transports.haut-allier.eu\/IMG\/png\/d11.png' title='PNG - 90.9 ko' type=\"image\/png\"><img src='http:\/\/usagers-transports.haut-allier.eu\/local\/cache-vignettes\/L450xH253\/d11-46e9b-ad64d.png?1684938323' width='450' height='253' alt='' \/><\/a><\/dt>\n<\/dl>\n<dl class='spip_document_2952 spip_documents spip_documents_center'>\n<dt><a href='http:\/\/usagers-transports.haut-allier.eu\/IMG\/png\/d12.png' title='PNG - 301.2 ko' type=\"image\/png\"><img src='http:\/\/usagers-transports.haut-allier.eu\/local\/cache-vignettes\/L450xH254\/d12-dba41-3cd26.png?1684938323' width='450' height='254' alt='' \/><\/a><\/dt>\n<\/dl>\n<dl class='spip_document_2951 spip_documents spip_documents_center'>\n<dt><a href='http:\/\/usagers-transports.haut-allier.eu\/IMG\/png\/d13.png' title='PNG - 246.6 ko' type=\"image\/png\"><img src='http:\/\/usagers-transports.haut-allier.eu\/local\/cache-vignettes\/L450xH250\/d13-5872b-2f316.png?1684938323' width='450' height='250' alt='' \/><\/a><\/dt>\n<\/dl>\n<dl class='spip_document_2950 spip_documents spip_documents_center'>\n<dt><a href='http:\/\/usagers-transports.haut-allier.eu\/IMG\/png\/d14.png' title='PNG - 104.2 ko' type=\"image\/png\"><img src='http:\/\/usagers-transports.haut-allier.eu\/local\/cache-vignettes\/L450xH254\/d14-d84b2-05bc7.png?1684938323' width='450' height='254' alt='' \/><\/a><\/dt>\n<\/dl>\n<dl class='spip_document_2948 spip_documents spip_documents_center'>\n<dt><a href='http:\/\/usagers-transports.haut-allier.eu\/IMG\/png\/d15.png' title='PNG - 66.6 ko' type=\"image\/png\"><img src='http:\/\/usagers-transports.haut-allier.eu\/local\/cache-vignettes\/L450xH254\/d15-4022f-3dde4.png?1684938323' width='450' height='254' alt='' \/><\/a><\/dt>\n<\/dl>\n<p> <br class='autobr' \/><br \/>\n<i>Les chantiers en 2023. Vous les connaissez depuis plusieurs mois ici, on vous en a parl\u00e9. L&rsquo;ensemble des usagers note que les coupures totales de circulation pour plusieurs mois sont souvent effectu\u00e9es alors qu&rsquo;on a de petits travaux qui plus est pas forc\u00e9ment programm\u00e9s sur la dur\u00e9e enti\u00e8re de la coupure<\/i><br class='autobr' \/><br \/>\n<span class='spip_document_2954 spip_documents spip_documents_center'><a href='http:\/\/usagers-transports.haut-allier.eu\/IMG\/png\/d16.png' type=\"image\/png\"><img src='http:\/\/usagers-transports.haut-allier.eu\/local\/cache-vignettes\/L450xH253\/d16-65654-d2984.png?1684938323' width='450' height='253' alt='PNG' \/><\/a><\/span><br class='autobr' \/> <br class='autobr' \/><br \/>\n<i>Principales \u00e9volutions pour 2024<\/i><\/p>\n<dl class='spip_document_2955 spip_documents spip_documents_center'>\n<dt><a href='http:\/\/usagers-transports.haut-allier.eu\/IMG\/png\/d17.png' title='PNG - 194.9 ko' type=\"image\/png\"><img src='http:\/\/usagers-transports.haut-allier.eu\/local\/cache-vignettes\/L450xH252\/d17-4787d-9b3f5.png?1684938323' width='450' height='252' alt='' \/><\/a><\/dt>\n<\/dl>\n<p> <br class='autobr' \/><br \/>\n<i>Ligne Lyon Saint-Etienne<\/i><\/p>\n<dl class='spip_document_2957 spip_documents spip_documents_center'>\n<dt><a href='http:\/\/usagers-transports.haut-allier.eu\/IMG\/png\/d18.png' title='PNG - 105.9 ko' type=\"image\/png\"><img src='http:\/\/usagers-transports.haut-allier.eu\/local\/cache-vignettes\/L450xH253\/d18-c2cab-f4567.png?1684938323' width='450' height='253' alt='' \/><\/a><\/dt>\n<\/dl>\n<dl class='spip_document_2956 spip_documents spip_documents_center'>\n<dt><a href='http:\/\/usagers-transports.haut-allier.eu\/IMG\/png\/d19.png' title='PNG - 70.8 ko' type=\"image\/png\"><img src='http:\/\/usagers-transports.haut-allier.eu\/local\/cache-vignettes\/L450xH254\/d19-d55c3-a6f6d.png?1684938323' width='450' height='254' alt='' \/><\/a><\/dt>\n<\/dl>\n<p> <br class='autobr' \/><br \/>\n<i>Ligne Saint-Etienne Le Puy en Velay<\/i><\/p>\n<dl class='spip_document_2959 spip_documents spip_documents_center'>\n<dt><a href='http:\/\/usagers-transports.haut-allier.eu\/IMG\/png\/d20.png' title='PNG - 146.9 ko' type=\"image\/png\"><img src='http:\/\/usagers-transports.haut-allier.eu\/local\/cache-vignettes\/L450xH255\/d20-642a3-77484.png?1684938323' width='450' height='255' alt='' \/><\/a><\/dt>\n<\/dl>\n<dl class='spip_document_2958 spip_documents spip_documents_center'>\n<dt><a href='http:\/\/usagers-transports.haut-allier.eu\/IMG\/png\/d21.png' title='PNG - 84.6 ko' type=\"image\/png\"><img src='http:\/\/usagers-transports.haut-allier.eu\/local\/cache-vignettes\/L450xH253\/d21-6aee9-74362.png?1684938323' width='450' height='253' alt='' \/><\/a><\/dt>\n<\/dl>\n<p> <br class='autobr' \/><br \/>\n<i>Ligne Saint-Etienne Bo\u00ebn<\/i><\/p>\n<dl class='spip_document_2960 spip_documents spip_documents_center'>\n<dt><a href='http:\/\/usagers-transports.haut-allier.eu\/IMG\/png\/d22.png' title='PNG - 75.4 ko' type=\"image\/png\"><img src='http:\/\/usagers-transports.haut-allier.eu\/local\/cache-vignettes\/L450xH252\/d22-28293-df08b.png?1684938323' width='450' height='252' alt='' \/><\/a><\/dt>\n<\/dl>\n<p> <br class='autobr' \/><br \/>\n<i>Ligne Lyon Clermont Ferrand<\/i><\/p>\n<dl class='spip_document_2961 spip_documents spip_documents_center'>\n<dt><a href='http:\/\/usagers-transports.haut-allier.eu\/IMG\/png\/d23.png' title='PNG - 83.2 ko' type=\"image\/png\"><img src='http:\/\/usagers-transports.haut-allier.eu\/local\/cache-vignettes\/L450xH251\/d23-e0941-10735.png?1684938323' width='450' height='251' alt='' \/><\/a><\/dt>\n<\/dl>\n<p> <br class='autobr' \/><br \/>\n<i>Etoile de Saint-Etienne. On notera qu&rsquo;elle s&rsquo;\u00e9tend jusqu&rsquo;au Puy et Bo\u00ebn au nord<\/i><\/p>\n<dl class='spip_document_2962 spip_documents spip_documents_center'>\n<dt><a href='http:\/\/usagers-transports.haut-allier.eu\/IMG\/png\/d24.png' title='PNG - 292.3 ko' type=\"image\/png\"><img src='http:\/\/usagers-transports.haut-allier.eu\/local\/cache-vignettes\/L450xH255\/d24-f9f7f-fa4d3.png?1684938323' width='450' height='255' alt='' \/><\/a><\/dt>\n<\/dl>\n<p> <br class='autobr' \/><br \/>\n<i>Etoile ferroviaire de Clermont \u00e0 l&rsquo;\u00e9tude<\/i><\/p>\n<dl class='spip_document_2977 spip_documents spip_documents_center'>\n<dt><a href='http:\/\/usagers-transports.haut-allier.eu\/IMG\/jpg\/rok-img_20230523_162607.jpg' title='JPEG - 626 ko' type=\"image\/jpeg\"><img src='http:\/\/usagers-transports.haut-allier.eu\/local\/cache-vignettes\/L450xH245\/rok-img_20230523_162607-3d292-846b9.jpg?1684938323' width='450' height='245' alt='' \/><\/a><\/dt>\n<\/dl>\n<p> <br class='autobr' \/><br \/>\n<i>Ligne Thiers Bo\u00ebn : la remise de l&rsquo;\u00e9tude, on vous en a parl\u00e9 maintes fois<\/i><\/p>\n<dl class='spip_document_2963 spip_documents spip_documents_center'>\n<dt><a href='http:\/\/usagers-transports.haut-allier.eu\/IMG\/png\/d25.png' title='PNG - 135.6 ko' type=\"image\/png\"><img src='http:\/\/usagers-transports.haut-allier.eu\/local\/cache-vignettes\/L450xH254\/d25-186c7-e24d0.png?1684938323' width='450' height='254' alt='' \/><\/a><\/dt>\n<\/dl>\n<dl class='spip_document_2981 spip_documents spip_documents_center'>\n<dt><a href='http:\/\/usagers-transports.haut-allier.eu\/IMG\/jpg\/rok-img_20230523_162720.jpg' title='JPEG - 692.7 ko' type=\"image\/jpeg\"><img src='http:\/\/usagers-transports.haut-allier.eu\/local\/cache-vignettes\/L450xH275\/rok-img_20230523_162720-79d56-7a0da.jpg?1684938323' width='450' height='275' alt='' \/><\/a><\/dt>\n<\/dl>\n<dl class='spip_document_2980 spip_documents spip_documents_center'>\n<dt><a href='http:\/\/usagers-transports.haut-allier.eu\/IMG\/jpg\/rok-img_20230523_162816.jpg' title='JPEG - 555.2 ko' type=\"image\/jpeg\"><img src='http:\/\/usagers-transports.haut-allier.eu\/local\/cache-vignettes\/L450xH274\/rok-img_20230523_162816-8b552-c8f52.jpg?1684938323' width='450' height='274' alt='' \/><\/a><\/dt>\n<\/dl>\n<dl class='spip_document_2979 spip_documents spip_documents_center'>\n<dt><a href='http:\/\/usagers-transports.haut-allier.eu\/IMG\/jpg\/rok-img_20230523_163048.jpg' title='JPEG - 761.2 ko' type=\"image\/jpeg\"><img src='http:\/\/usagers-transports.haut-allier.eu\/local\/cache-vignettes\/L450xH269\/rok-img_20230523_163048-78a09-b5c37.jpg?1684938323' width='450' height='269' alt='' \/><\/a><\/dt>\n<\/dl>\n<dl class='spip_document_2978 spip_documents spip_documents_center'>\n<dt><a href='http:\/\/usagers-transports.haut-allier.eu\/IMG\/jpg\/rok-img_20230523_163335.jpg' title='JPEG - 468.6 ko' type=\"image\/jpeg\"><img src='http:\/\/usagers-transports.haut-allier.eu\/local\/cache-vignettes\/L450xH263\/rok-img_20230523_163335-9782d-2a6c4.jpg?1684938323' width='450' height='263' alt='' \/><\/a><\/dt>\n<\/dl>\n<p><i>Jean-Fran\u00e7ois de l&rsquo;association Letrain634269<\/i><br class='autobr' \/><br \/>\n<span class='spip_document_2966 spip_documents spip_documents_center'><br \/>\n<img src='http:\/\/usagers-transports.haut-allier.eu\/local\/cache-vignettes\/L500xH336\/img_20230523_164041-ed637.jpg?1684938324' width='500' height='336' alt=\"\" \/><\/span><br class='autobr' \/> <br class='autobr' \/><br \/>\n<i>Ligne Neussargues Saint-Ch\u00e9ly d&rsquo;Apcher. Sur la ligne des Causses il y a un \u00ab flou \u00bb (sic). Risque de suspension \u00e0 la fin de l&rsquo;ann\u00e9e si la concertation avec l&rsquo;\u00e9tat et les deux r\u00e9gions n&rsquo;aboutit pas. Pas de r\u00e9ponse de l&rsquo;\u00e9tat pour le moment. Il est dit qu&rsquo;ils n&rsquo;envisagent pas la fermeture<\/i><\/p>\n<dl class='spip_document_2968 spip_documents spip_documents_center'>\n<dt><a href='http:\/\/usagers-transports.haut-allier.eu\/IMG\/jpg\/rok-img_20230523_153423.jpg' title='JPEG - 567.6 ko' type=\"image\/jpeg\"><img src='http:\/\/usagers-transports.haut-allier.eu\/local\/cache-vignettes\/L450xH265\/rok-img_20230523_153423-c98e5-4c5d7.jpg?1684938324' width='450' height='265' alt='' \/><\/a><\/dt>\n<\/dl>\n<p> <br class='autobr' \/><br \/>\n<i>Ligne Clermont Ferrand Le Puy en Velay<\/i><\/p>\n<dl class='spip_document_2969 spip_documents spip_documents_center'>\n<dt><a href='http:\/\/usagers-transports.haut-allier.eu\/IMG\/jpg\/rok-img_20230523_155922.jpg' title='JPEG - 431.7 ko' type=\"image\/jpeg\"><img src='http:\/\/usagers-transports.haut-allier.eu\/local\/cache-vignettes\/L450xH260\/rok-img_20230523_155922-768cb-f5286.jpg?1684938324' width='450' height='260' alt='' \/><\/a><\/dt>\n<\/dl>\n<p> <br class='autobr' \/><br \/>\n<i>Ligne Aurillac Toulouse avec la r\u00e9ouverture du poste de Figeac <\/i><\/p>\n<dl class='spip_document_2970 spip_documents spip_documents_center'>\n<dt><a href='http:\/\/usagers-transports.haut-allier.eu\/IMG\/jpg\/rok-img_20230523_160039.jpg' title='JPEG - 633.5 ko' type=\"image\/jpeg\"><img src='http:\/\/usagers-transports.haut-allier.eu\/local\/cache-vignettes\/L450xH283\/rok-img_20230523_160039-d02bf-6ffb1.jpg?1684938324' width='450' height='283' alt='' \/><\/a><\/dt>\n<\/dl>\n<p> <br class='autobr' \/><br \/>\n<i>Etoile d&rsquo;Aurillac<\/i><\/p>\n<dl class='spip_document_2972 spip_documents spip_documents_center'>\n<dt><a href='http:\/\/usagers-transports.haut-allier.eu\/IMG\/jpg\/rok-img_20230523_160100.jpg' title='JPEG - 561.7 ko' type=\"image\/jpeg\"><img src='http:\/\/usagers-transports.haut-allier.eu\/local\/cache-vignettes\/L450xH283\/rok-img_20230523_160100-29b4c-29022.jpg?1684938324' width='450' height='283' alt='' \/><\/a><\/dt>\n<\/dl>\n<dl class='spip_document_2987 spip_documents spip_documents_center'>\n<dt><a href='http:\/\/usagers-transports.haut-allier.eu\/IMG\/jpg\/rok-img_20230523_160207.jpg' title='JPEG - 597.9 ko' type=\"image\/jpeg\"><img src='http:\/\/usagers-transports.haut-allier.eu\/local\/cache-vignettes\/L450xH283\/rok-img_20230523_160207-2a6d8-2e98c.jpg?1684938980' width='450' height='283' alt='' \/><\/a><\/dt>\n<\/dl>\n<p> <br class='autobr' \/><br \/>\n<i>Ligne Montlu\u00e7on Bourges (Paris)<\/i><\/p>\n<dl class='spip_document_2973 spip_documents spip_documents_center'>\n<dt><a href='http:\/\/usagers-transports.haut-allier.eu\/IMG\/jpg\/rok-img_20230523_161255.jpg' title='JPEG - 645.5 ko' type=\"image\/jpeg\"><img src='http:\/\/usagers-transports.haut-allier.eu\/local\/cache-vignettes\/L450xH272\/rok-img_20230523_161255-776a3-4664e.jpg?1684938324' width='450' height='272' alt='' \/><\/a><\/dt>\n<\/dl>\n<p> <br class='autobr' \/><br \/>\n<i>Etoile de Montlu\u00e7on<\/i><\/p>\n<dl class='spip_document_2975 spip_documents spip_documents_center'>\n<dt><a href='http:\/\/usagers-transports.haut-allier.eu\/IMG\/jpg\/rok-img_20230523_161630.jpg' title='JPEG - 591.8 ko' type=\"image\/jpeg\"><img src='http:\/\/usagers-transports.haut-allier.eu\/local\/cache-vignettes\/L450xH266\/rok-img_20230523_161630-b8822-e7eb6.jpg?1684938324' width='450' height='266' alt='' \/><\/a><\/dt>\n<\/dl>\n<dl class='spip_document_2974 spip_documents spip_documents_center'>\n<dt><a href='http:\/\/usagers-transports.haut-allier.eu\/IMG\/jpg\/rok-img_20230523_161749.jpg' title='JPEG - 411.4 ko' type=\"image\/jpeg\"><img src='http:\/\/usagers-transports.haut-allier.eu\/local\/cache-vignettes\/L450xH261\/rok-img_20230523_161749-0b013-06d8d.jpg?1684938324' width='450' height='261' alt='' \/><\/a><\/dt>\n<\/dl>\n<p> <br class='autobr' \/><br \/>\n<i>Ligne Moulins Clermont Ferrand Brioude (Ligne des C\u00e9vennes nord)<\/i><\/p>\n<dl class='spip_document_2976 spip_documents spip_documents_center'>\n<dt><a href='http:\/\/usagers-transports.haut-allier.eu\/IMG\/jpg\/rok-img_20230523_161832.jpg' title='JPEG - 443.4 ko' type=\"image\/jpeg\"><img src='http:\/\/usagers-transports.haut-allier.eu\/local\/cache-vignettes\/L450xH261\/rok-img_20230523_161832-9c676-05729.jpg?1684938324' width='450' height='261' alt='' \/><\/a><\/dt>\n<\/dl>\n<p> <br class='autobr' \/><br \/>\n<i>Ligne des C\u00e9vennes : peu de choses si ce n&rsquo;est la reconduction du 4\u00e8me AR estival le week-end uniquement. Pas de diapo mais des explications en audio<\/i><\/p>\n<div class='spip_document_2986 spip_documents spip_documents_center media audio' id='media_2986_35666'><audio id=\"audio_2986_35666\" controls preload=\"none\" width=\"350\" style=\"width:350px;height:24px\"><source type='audio\/mpeg' src=\"http:\/\/usagers-transports.haut-allier.eu\/IMG\/mp3\/2023-05-23-cotech-clermont-lignedescevennes.mp3?1684938057\" \/><object width='350' height='24' type=\"audio\/mpeg\"><param name='movie' value='http:\/\/usagers-transports.haut-allier.eu\/IMG\/mp3\/2023-05-23-cotech-clermont-lignedescevennes.mp3?1684938057' \/><param name='src' value='http:\/\/usagers-transports.haut-allier.eu\/IMG\/mp3\/2023-05-23-cotech-clermont-lignedescevennes.mp3?1684938057' \/><param name='id_article' value='999' \/><param name='class' value='' \/><embed src='http:\/\/usagers-transports.haut-allier.eu\/IMG\/mp3\/2023-05-23-cotech-clermont-lignedescevennes.mp3?1684938057' id_article='999' class='' width='350' height='24'><\/embed><\/object><\/audio> <\/div>\n<div class=\"base64javascript641871994646e27f87d1191.95249048\" title=\"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\"><\/div>\n<p> <br class='autobr' \/><br \/>\n<i>Ligne TET Clermont Ferrand Paris<\/i><\/p>\n<dl class='spip_document_2982 spip_documents spip_documents_center'>\n<dt><a href='http:\/\/usagers-transports.haut-allier.eu\/IMG\/jpg\/rok-img_20230523_163442.jpg' title='JPEG - 703 ko' type=\"image\/jpeg\"><img src='http:\/\/usagers-transports.haut-allier.eu\/local\/cache-vignettes\/L450xH252\/rok-img_20230523_163442-d3ac3-a5d1a.jpg?1684938324' width='450' height='252' alt='' \/><\/a><\/dt>\n<\/dl>\n<p> <br class='autobr' \/><br \/>\n<i>Le reste&#8230;<\/i><\/p>\n<dl class='spip_document_2964 spip_documents spip_documents_center'>\n<dt><a href='http:\/\/usagers-transports.haut-allier.eu\/IMG\/png\/d26.png' title='PNG - 219.7 ko' type=\"image\/png\"><img src='http:\/\/usagers-transports.haut-allier.eu\/local\/cache-vignettes\/L450xH252\/d26-fefa0-6afaa.png?1684938324' width='450' height='252' alt='' \/><\/a><\/dt>\n<\/dl>\n<dl class='spip_document_2965 spip_documents spip_documents_center'>\n<dt><a href='http:\/\/usagers-transports.haut-allier.eu\/IMG\/png\/d27.png' title='PNG - 199.9 ko' type=\"image\/png\"><img src='http:\/\/usagers-transports.haut-allier.eu\/local\/cache-vignettes\/L450xH253\/d27-60a8c-6d62c.png?1684938324' width='450' height='253' alt='' \/><\/a><\/dt>\n<\/dl>\n<p> <br class='autobr' \/><br \/>\n<i>Am\u00e9nagements dans les gares d&rsquo;Auvergne<\/i><\/p>\n<dl class='spip_document_2984 spip_documents spip_documents_center'>\n<dt><a href='http:\/\/usagers-transports.haut-allier.eu\/IMG\/jpg\/rok-img_20230523_170300.jpg' title='JPEG - 629.1 ko' type=\"image\/jpeg\"><img src='http:\/\/usagers-transports.haut-allier.eu\/local\/cache-vignettes\/L450xH270\/rok-img_20230523_170300-99acf-23dbc.jpg?1684938324' width='450' height='270' alt='' \/><\/a><\/dt>\n<\/dl>\n<dl class='spip_document_2983 spip_documents spip_documents_center'>\n<dt><a href='http:\/\/usagers-transports.haut-allier.eu\/IMG\/jpg\/rok-img_20230523_170401.jpg' title='JPEG - 535.7 ko' type=\"image\/jpeg\"><img src='http:\/\/usagers-transports.haut-allier.eu\/local\/cache-vignettes\/L450xH258\/rok-img_20230523_170401-72ce6-3e4c2.jpg?1684938324' width='450' height='258' alt='' \/><\/a><\/dt>\n<\/dl>\n<p> <br class='autobr' \/><br \/>\n<i>Billetique Oura : les usagers souhaitent qu&rsquo;elle se d\u00e9veloppe rapidement accompagn\u00e9e de <strong>tarifs r\u00e9duits pour les trains<\/strong> \u00e0 la fois dans les bus, dans les trains et dans les trams pour l&rsquo;agglo de Clermont. Il a plusieurs fois \u00e9t\u00e9 fait la remarque que le train est largement d\u00e9savantag\u00e9 par rapport au bus \u00e0 cause de sa tarification trop \u00e9lev\u00e9e<\/i><br class='autobr' \/><br \/>\n<span class='spip_document_2985 spip_documents spip_documents_center'><br \/>\n<img src='http:\/\/usagers-transports.haut-allier.eu\/local\/cache-vignettes\/L500xH287\/rok-img_20230523_173929-9414f.jpg?1684938326' width='500' height='287' alt=\"\" \/><\/span><br class='autobr' \/> <br class='autobr' \/><br \/>\nIl a aussi \u00e9t\u00e9 \u00e9voqu\u00e9 le manque d&rsquo;informations horaires pour les usagers : affiches et fiches horaires non disponibles dans la plupart des gares auvergnates. Il nous est r\u00e9pondu que le tirage est le m\u00eame. Il serait peut-\u00eatre int\u00e9ressant de voir qui les fournit sur place et qui rafra\u00eechit les stocks (s&rsquo;il y a encore du personnel) !<br class='autobr' \/> <br class='autobr' \/><br \/>\nNous avons aussi \u00e9voqu\u00e9 les mesures qui ont \u00e9t\u00e9 prises entre Lyon et Marseille pour les v\u00e9los jusqu&rsquo;en septembre : 30 places de bicyclettes par train ! Nous demandons les m\u00eames mesures sur nos lignes auvergnates touristiques notamment la ligne des C\u00e9vennes le long de la voie cyclotouriste Via Allier. Il nous est r\u00e9pondu que l&rsquo;op\u00e9ration susdite est une exp\u00e9rimentation qu&rsquo;ils veulent g\u00e9n\u00e9raliser.<br class='autobr' \/> <br class='autobr' \/><br \/>\nSNCF R\u00e9seau voit du \u00ab flou \u00bb sur les financements de travaux sur les lignes :<br \/>\n<br \/><img src='http:\/\/usagers-transports.haut-allier.eu\/local\/cache-vignettes\/L8xH11\/puce-32883.gif?1684236166' width='8' height='11' class='puce' alt=\"-\" \/> Neussargues St Ch\u00e9ly<br \/>\n<br \/><img src='http:\/\/usagers-transports.haut-allier.eu\/local\/cache-vignettes\/L8xH11\/puce-32883.gif?1684236166' width='8' height='11' class='puce' alt=\"-\" \/> Le Puy Firminy<br \/>\n<br \/><img src='http:\/\/usagers-transports.haut-allier.eu\/local\/cache-vignettes\/L8xH11\/puce-32883.gif?1684236166' width='8' height='11' class='puce' alt=\"-\" \/> St Georges d&rsquo;Aurac Le Puy<br class='autobr' \/> <br class='autobr' \/><br \/>\nPresque 4 heures de r\u00e9union avec certes du travail du c\u00f4t\u00e9 des services mais une impression d&rsquo;immobilit\u00e9 par manque de financement.<br class='autobr' \/> <br class='autobr' \/><br \/>\nA quand une vraie politique des transports ferroviaires en Auvergne Rh\u00f4ne Alpes ? Nous d\u00e9sesp\u00e9rons.<br class='autobr' \/> <\/p>\n<\/div>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Se tenait hier 23 mai la r\u00e9union de concertation technique entre la r\u00e9gion Auvergne Rh\u00f4ne Alpes, son prestataire SNCF, et les groupes de d\u00e9fense d&rsquo;usagers, \u00e0 l&rsquo;h\u00f4tel de r\u00e9gion de Clermont Ferrand. La salle Oui morosit\u00e9, nous allons vous l&rsquo;expliquer un peu plus loin, malgr\u00e9 le d\u00e9roul\u00e9 men\u00e9 avec \u00e9coute par Sylvain Debard charg\u00e9 des mobilit\u00e9s \u00e0 la r\u00e9gion et par Raoul Pera de SNCF Voyageurs D\u00e9veloppement mobilit\u00e9s. Les repr\u00e9sentants de SNCF R\u00e9seau, SNCF Gare et Connexions \u00e9taient l\u00e0, sauf ceux de l&rsquo;Etat, invit\u00e9s (&#8230;)<\/p>\n<p>&#8211;<br \/>\n<a href=\"http:\/\/usagers-transports.haut-allier.eu\/?-actualites-\" rel=\"directory\">Actualit\u00e9s<\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":3,"featured_media":84248,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":[],"categories":[7],"tags":[],"yoast_head":"<!-- This site is optimized with the Yoast SEO plugin v19.6 - https:\/\/yoast.com\/wordpress\/plugins\/seo\/ -->\n<title>Comit\u00e9 technique R\u00e9gion \/ Usagers \u00e0 Clermont Fd : morosit\u00e9 sur toutes les lignes auvergnates - Nous, Voyageurs ! 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